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Hogan Rogers
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Handle for a large knife
by Hogan Rogers · Thu Aug 02, 2012 03:20 AM

G'day guys,

I need your adivce on an issue which i have been thinking about for a while. I had a large heavy knife/hatchet.. horn handle, rat tail tang; i've have had it for many years, just recently the handle broke clean off the guard. Now..! i really like that knife i have been working on its nice razor sharp scandy edge just the way i like it. it does keep a bloody good edge. Any ideas as to how to make another handle for it that could last a little more than 4 years. I do not want to re-attach the old handle as i think the tang was heated up to much to fit the horn handle, hence the reason for breaking. also do not want to weld a metal handle to it, as i think it would be a waste of that blade... however im open to ideas. PLEASE HELP.

 

I do have about an inch and half to play with from the guard to the cutting edge. so hit me with some good ideas please,, I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO BACK BENCH THAT KNIFE.

 

Cheers.


Cam Ho
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RE: Handle for a large knife
by Cam Ho · Thu Aug 02, 2012 03:39 AM

For rat tails I just glue on whatever handle material I'd be using same as I would a full tang knife and then just fill in the gap with epoxy. Its not really pretty (well you can always add glowing epoxy) but its fine and I dont really mind the look. Instead of epoxy you could always fill in the gap with another piece of handle material. Thats all I can offer you really, I dont usually work with rat tail knives.


Hogan Rogers
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RE: Handle for a large knife
by Hogan Rogers · Fri Aug 03, 2012 06:16 AM

thank you very much mate, any insight is appreciated.

How strong will it be, considering the blade itself is over a pound in weight? (sorry mate, i've always been a sucker for heavy blades, we work well together).


Cam Ho
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RE: Handle for a large knife
by Cam Ho · Sun Aug 05, 2012 18:39 PM
Hogan Rogers wrote:

thank you very much mate, any insight is appreciated.

How strong will it be, considering the blade itself is over a pound in weight? (sorry mate, i've always been a sucker for heavy blades, we work well together).

Should be strong enough, re-enforce it with pins though. Like I said, I've only done epoxy filled tangs for small knives but it should be fine. Mike Gavko did epoxy filled tangs for a Ka-Bar 14" grass machete and a HD Warthog (both fairly large blades) and I dont think he had any problems there. Lol I like big knives too. If I did not say it before, get a good strong epoxy too! PICTURES OF THE KNIFE ARE HELPFUL TOO.

Last edited by Cam Ho on Sun Aug 05, 2012 18:40 PM

Dan Eastland
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RE: Handle for a large knife
by Dan Eastland · Sun Aug 05, 2012 19:32 PM

There are several ways to make a new handle depending on the tools and skill level available.  

 

1) Is to clamp a block  of handle material down (never try to hold it in your hand) drill the necessary size hole in it and epoxy the tang in.  This is better if there is a hole in the tang so it can also be pinned.  The epoxy must fill any voids in the handle and around the tang or they will become week spots.  

 

2) This will require two pieces of handle material.  make both completely flat so that they will fit tightly together.  then ether use a router, or a drill and a wood chisel to make a void for the  tang to fit in.  glue the two side together again filling any void around the tang with epoxy.  again pinning will improve this even if you can not pin threw the tang pin the two slabs together to strengthen against shear forces/separation.  one can use some 1/4 stainless tubing to make a lanyard tube at the back and work as a pin.  then shape handle 

 

3) this will require three pieces two side prepared as above a second piece the same width or slightly thicker then the tang.  I like to use g-10 or micarta for this.  cut the shape of the tang in the micarta glue it to one side of the handle.  sand micarta to same thickness as tang.  the micarta must stay flat to prevent glue lines and unglyness.  dry fit second side to in sure fit glue and pin all parts together shape handle.  

 

I like to use g-flex epoxy from west systems it has a 75min work time and a grate holding strength.  One can also use acu-glass, or 30 min epoxy I would not use 5 min epoxy as that it gives very little room for mistakes.  

 

I use several (3) "c" clamps to hold every thing together while gluing and leave it in clamps over night.

 

All of the above epoxies will clean up with mineral spirits.  I use an old tooth brush and some paper towels

 

the epoxy will run I set the knives on wax paper while it cures and wear gloves

 

If you have access to a belt or spindle sander they will speed the shaping process, if not use hand files the sand paper starting at  60grit move to 220.  Finish with steel wool or Scotch bright pad.  Round off any sharp corners to avoid hot spot.

 

I hope this helps let me know if I can or need to  fill in any gaps in the info

 

Dan 

I usually avoid such a long post, as that I am dyslexic and the written word is not my strong suit.  If I need to clarify any thing above pleas let me know.

 

 

 

Last edited by Dan Eastland on Sun Aug 05, 2012 19:34 PM · Reason: spelling skills of a slow second grader

James Montana
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RE: Handle for a large knife
by James Montana · Sun Aug 26, 2012 09:44 AM

You can stack leather washers for a rat tail tang like old ka-bars the use a pommel and peen the end of the tang over

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